From: Schmidt, Dan
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:56
AM
To: Mautz, Kelly
Subject: Questions From Trails
Committee
Attachments: ATVApprop.doc; SnowmobileApprop.doc; trail
miles.xls; BUDATA.XLS; BUDATA.XLS; FW: FY 06 Trails expenditures
Members
of the Legislative Council Committee on State Trail Policy:
This email contains a series of questions and
requests for additional information that were posed by members of the Special
Committee on State Trails Policy at the first special committee meeting on
October 5, 2006. The staff to the special committee sent the questions and
requests for information to Brigit Brown and Larry Freidig of the Department of
Natural Resources staff and requested their responses. The remainder of this
email consists of the questions and requests for information, and the DNR
responses.
I have also
attached the revenue and expenditure figures for non-motorized (State Parks),
ATV and Snowmobile trails as provided by the DNR representatives earlier in the
study process.
There will be
an opportunity to ask the DNR representatives questions regarding these
responses at the November 10 meeting.
Daniel W. Schmidt
Senior Analyst
Wisconsin Legislative Council Staff
1 E. Main Street, Suite 401
P.O. Box 2536
Madison, WI 53701-2536
608-267-7251
dan.schmidt@legis.state.wi.us
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1. Members would like to see a ranking of park budget size
between Wisconsin and other Midwestern states. (Brigit indicated that this
information was available through the annual information exchange or parks
system impact study?)
http://naspd.indstate.edu/director/aix/2005aix/2005AIX.PDF - See page
30 for a listing of the budget of all State Park operating budgets as a
percentage of total state expenditures.
2. Members requested information on the use of
budget money by each user group -- ATV's & Snowmobiles in particular. (We
have the Year end report information on the ATV and Snowmobile accounts from
Larry and some general figures on park trails from Brigit via the budget people
that we will likely distribute, but I wanted to check to see if there was
anything else you would like the members to see on this
topic.)
The only user groups that will have
any separated budget information will be ATV and snowmobile. I have provided two attachments that show the amounts
budgeted for both the snowmobile program and the all-terrain vehicle program
through the last two biennia. I hope the appropriation descriptions give
the folks a better idea how the money is distributed as a motorized
program. I should add a bit of a warning on the year-end reports that I
provided you earlier. While it's true that each report gives a snapshot of
the health of a program at a given point in time, it can be misleading.
The expenditures reported for the trails program correspond to payments made for
projects approved in a number of different fiscal years, e.g., it takes an
average of 2 years to complete and bill out a bridge rehabilitation project for
either the snowmobile or ATV program. There is a tendency for people to
assume that the expenditures correspond just to the projects you approved last
year or the current year.
3. Members would like to see comparative data regarding
costs of trail operation: i.e., snowmobiles get $250/mile ATVs $350/mile. Also
how much are such costs funded for non-motorized trails.
It differs a
bit between the snowmobile and the all-terrain vehicle program. Our
snowmobile maintenance agreements are written at $250 per mile. For
counties that meet certain statutory thresholds, there is a program of
supplementary maintenance payments. The statutory cap for snowmobile
maintenance payments is $750 per mile and we have counties that regularly max
out at this level, e.g. Vilas, Oneida. For the ATV program there is no
supplementary maintenance program. Grants are written for summer
maintenance (approximately 8 months of activity) at $450 per mile and winter
maintenance at $100 per mile.
Please note that the amount snowmobiles and ATVs
receive per mile from the grant program does not necessarily equal the amount
that it costs to provide for these uses. Many of our trails have found that
expense is greater than the amount received per mile. (E.G. the Bearskin State
Trail)
4. Members asked whether there are numbers available for
the per/capita use of trails? i.e., 1800 miles of ski trails that get 90,000
uses per season.
There are not currently any reliable use
numbers. I am working with the Dept of Transportation (Tom Huber) on purchasing
pyroelectric (uses heat instead of motion) sensor devices (http://www.eco-compteur.com/) to gain better user counts. Thus far, we have not had a counting
system (beside using people to do the counts, which is very expensive, and we
have not done on any sort of meaningful scale) to get any sort of accurate count
information. We are hopeful that this new pyroelectric sensor may be the answer.
That said, we do have attendance numbers culled from a variety of sources that
are reported for our properties. These can be found on the Internet:
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/parks/reports/visits.html. There is no data available for snowmobiles or ATVs,
either.
5. Members asked if figures are available for
total mileage of opportunity by user type. i.e., ATVs: 6000 miles, XC ski 1800,
etc.
[For non-motorized trails] I can
give you the numbers for Wisconsin State Parks and Forests only. (see attached
spreadsheet [titled trail_miles.xls])
Snowmobile - 18,576.9 miles
sponsored by counties and 707 on state properties for a total of 19,283.9
miles. For summer ATV opportunities we have 1,658 miles sponsored by local
units of government (primarily counties) and 180.3 miles on state property for a
total of 1,838 miles of trail. For winter ATV trail opportunity we have
4,074 miles of locally sponsored trails plus 133 miles on state property for a
total of 4,207 miles.
6. Members asked if stewardship money may be used for
the acquisition and construction of trails.
[For
non-motorized trails] Yes, please visit:
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/caer/cfa/lr/stewardship/local/Local.html for a listing of
grant programs. The department dedicates a
portion of Stewardship each biennium to trail acquisition. We also do
significant amounts of development work on state trails, much of which
is through grant programs to our cooperative
trails.
[For ATVs & Snowmobiles] The
Stewardship restriction for "nature based outdoor recreation" in s. 23.0917(4),
Stats., applies to the property development and grants assistance subprogram
under Stewardship. It does not apply to the land acquisition subprogram used by
the Department. Consequently, the Department could use Stewardship funds to
purchase land for ATV trails, but not to develop the trails. However, Department
acquisition with Stewardship would be contrary to legislative intent, unless the
primary use of the property was nature based, and ATV's were a secondary
compatible use.
The definition of "nature based outdoor
recreation" in s. NR 51.002(19), Wis. Adm. Code includes multi-use trails where
the primary uses are nature based (such as hiking or cross-country skiing), and
motorized use would be a secondary use and allowed in a restrictive manner so it
would be compatible with the primary uses."